Venetian
Let an agent explain Venetian, relay classification, geography, history, varieties, status debates and revitalisation from linguistic and cultural sources with positions attributed, describe the named varieties, and distinguish Venetian from standard Italian, Venetian Italian regional speech, Friulian, Ladin and Istro-Romanian.
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Purpose and description
Let an agent explain Venetian, relay classification, geography, history, varieties, status debates and revitalisation from linguistic and cultural sources with positions attributed, describe the named varieties, and distinguish Venetian from standard Italian, Venetian Italian regional speech, Friulian, Ladin and Istro-Romanian.
A Romance language spoken mainly in the Veneto region of north-eastern Italy and neighbouring areas, historically the language of the Republic of Venice and its trade across the Adriatic and eastern Mediterranean, with varieties the registry aliases name including the colonial dialect of Venice spoken in former Venetian territories, Istrian and Dalmatian Venetian, Trentine varieties, Pontine Venetian brought by settlers to the reclaimed Pontine Marshes in the 1930s, and Talian or Brazilian Venetian spoken by descendants of emigrants in southern Brazil, recognised as cultural heritage in some Brazilian municipalities; Italy does not recognise Venetian as a minority language, while the Veneto regional council has passed laws promoting it, and its status is debated, with positions attributed.
What it is for: Communication and regional identity.
It can be explain classification and history; relay varieties and diaspora; describe named varieties; present status debates with attribution.
Distinguishing features
Venetian Republic legacy
Diaspora varieties
Contested official status
Distinct from Italian
What it looks like
Not a physical object; spoken and written in Latin script with varied orthographies.
Physical character
Republic of Venice: 697-1797 note - traditional dates
Talian heritage recognition: from 2009 in some Brazilian municipalities note - Serafina Correa, as reported
ISO 639-3 code: vec code
How it is recognised
Romance language of the Veneto
Pontine Venetian, Talian, colonial dialect of Venice, Istrian dialect, Trentine dialect, Brazilian Venetian
Standard Italian is Tuscan-based; regional Italian is Italian with Venetian features; Friulian and Ladin are Rhaeto-Romance; Istro-Romanian is Eastern Romance
Related models
is a kind of - in registry terms
was spoken in -
includes -
is contrasted with -
In practice
Families and kinds
Venetian proper
Colonial Venetian varieties
Trentine and Istrian varieties
Pontine Venetian
Talian
Standards and regulation
Italian Law 482 of 1999 on historical linguistic minorities
Veneto regional language laws
ISO 639-3
Failure modes and hazards
Partisan framing of language status
Treating Venetian as an Italian dialect without context
Stale speaker estimates
Also called
Where this came from
wikidata · CC0 1.0
Drafted structure
Bundle to layer to finding to question, as the second pass will find it: 4 bundles · 8 layers · 8 findings · 16 questions.
Understand What Venetian is.
Attribution.
Definition
Definition.
Definition
Definition.
- What is Venetian, and how does it differ from standard Italian, regional Italian, Friulian, Ladin and Istro-Romanian? definition
- Is the question about learning, linguistics, diaspora or language politics? boundary
Varieties
Named varieties.
Varieties
Varieties.
- What are Pontine Venetian, Talian, colonial Venetian, Istrian and Trentine varieties? definition
- Which entry fits the specific variety? action
History History.
Sources.
Republic
Venetian Republic.
Republic
Republic.
- How did Venetian spread as a trade and administrative language? provenance
- Which references are standard? provenance
Literature
Literature.
Literature
Literature.
- How did writers such as Goldoni and Ruzante use Venetian? provenance
- Which sources are cited? provenance
Status Status.
Attribution.
Italy
Recognition debates.
Italy
Italy.
- What do Italian authorities, Veneto regional bodies and linguists argue about Venetian s status, with positions attributed? provenance
- Is the presentation neutral and attributed? boundary
Brazil
Talian in Brazil.
Brazil
Brazil.
- How is Talian maintained and recognised in southern Brazil? provenance
- Which entry fits Italian Brazilians? action
Context Contact.
Context.
Adriatic
Adriatic varieties.
Adriatic
Adriatic.
- How did Venetian influence Croatian and Slovenian coastal speech? provenance
- Which entry fits Istria? action
Pontine Marshes
Pontine settlement.
Pontine Marshes
Pontine Marshes.
- How did settlers bring Venetian to the reclaimed Pontine Marshes? provenance
- Which entry fits Agro Pontino? action
What the second pass must settle
- Should Talian be a separate entry?
- How should the language versus dialect debate be presented?
- How should speaker data be sourced?